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	<description>...had a blog it would be like this</description>
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		<title>Comment on 5 things that Science Fiction and Fantasy could do without by Matt Hall</title>
		<link>http://blog.verulamwriterscircle.org.uk/?p=835&#038;cpage=1#comment-962</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Hall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Aug 2010 08:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about maps at the beginning of a novel? There&#039;s nothing like a vaguely accurate ink-lined coastline with dots for cities and the odd sea monster to really add to a narrative. This is another Tolkein holdover no one would miss.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about maps at the beginning of a novel? There&#8217;s nothing like a vaguely accurate ink-lined coastline with dots for cities and the odd sea monster to really add to a narrative. This is another Tolkein holdover no one would miss.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Web power rules! by Kevin Bennett</title>
		<link>http://blog.verulamwriterscircle.org.uk/?p=922&#038;cpage=1#comment-953</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Bennett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jul 2010 16:10:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two things could prevent that -
1: The bassist is dead (although I hear Derek Acorah might come in handy for that - or not), and
2: My voice was bad enough then - http://www.kjbennett.co.uk/RHIA.htm - there&#039;s the proof, but now I can baely get a note out of my throat that doesn&#039;t sound like a heavy-smoking bullfrog !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two things could prevent that -<br />
1: The bassist is dead (although I hear Derek Acorah might come in handy for that &#8211; or not), and<br />
2: My voice was bad enough then &#8211; <a href="http://www.kjbennett.co.uk/RHIA.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.kjbennett.co.uk/RHIA.htm</a> &#8211; there&#8217;s the proof, but now I can baely get a note out of my throat that doesn&#8217;t sound like a heavy-smoking bullfrog !</p>
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		<title>Comment on Web power rules! by Susan K Franklin</title>
		<link>http://blog.verulamwriterscircle.org.uk/?p=922&#038;cpage=1#comment-952</link>
		<dc:creator>Susan K Franklin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jul 2010 14:21:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Loved the pictures. Are you going to reform? It could be interesting!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Loved the pictures. Are you going to reform? It could be interesting!!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Operational note by Kevin Bennett</title>
		<link>http://blog.verulamwriterscircle.org.uk/?p=898&#038;cpage=1#comment-947</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Bennett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jul 2010 09:43:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>... I, On the other hand, can barely use the tiny key pad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230; I, On the other hand, can barely use the tiny key pad.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Operational note by Kevin Bennett</title>
		<link>http://blog.verulamwriterscircle.org.uk/?p=898&#038;cpage=1#comment-946</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Bennett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jul 2010 09:41:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, dude! This really does work on a Blackberry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, dude! This really does work on a Blackberry.</p>
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		<title>Comment on (no) Flippin &#8216; heck &#8211; Elf  n&#8217; safety by Jes Guy</title>
		<link>http://blog.verulamwriterscircle.org.uk/?p=747&#038;cpage=1#comment-945</link>
		<dc:creator>Jes Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jun 2010 09:06:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually I did . . . and this was the lead story referred to by Lord Young on BBC breakfast this last week, who is charged with looking into ‘Elf &amp; safety issues of ‘over enthusiasm’ for the new government.

I see also that the BP bosses are now facing charges of  &quot;gross negligence or wilful misconduct&quot; -  does the same apply to Eng-er-land Manager Fabio Capello. 

After last night’s lacklustre performance (the poor souls are only paid £160K per week) as the “importance of being earnest and ethnically northern” commentator intoned; “they’re frustrated; they look haunted by the England shirts; they’re playing poor club football in international shirts” I’m now looking to Lord David Young to look into my ‘Elf &amp; safety.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually I did . . . and this was the lead story referred to by Lord Young on BBC breakfast this last week, who is charged with looking into ‘Elf &amp; safety issues of ‘over enthusiasm’ for the new government.</p>
<p>I see also that the BP bosses are now facing charges of  &#8220;gross negligence or wilful misconduct&#8221; &#8211;  does the same apply to Eng-er-land Manager Fabio Capello. </p>
<p>After last night’s lacklustre performance (the poor souls are only paid £160K per week) as the “importance of being earnest and ethnically northern” commentator intoned; “they’re frustrated; they look haunted by the England shirts; they’re playing poor club football in international shirts” I’m now looking to Lord David Young to look into my ‘Elf &amp; safety.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Oh, sod off by Toby Frost</title>
		<link>http://blog.verulamwriterscircle.org.uk/?p=892&#038;cpage=1#comment-944</link>
		<dc:creator>Toby Frost</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 14:30:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We shouldn&#039;t have anything like that, but text-speak is the work of lazy minds.  The more abbreviated the words get, the easier it is to spout them without pausing to consider their meaning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We shouldn&#8217;t have anything like that, but text-speak is the work of lazy minds.  The more abbreviated the words get, the easier it is to spout them without pausing to consider their meaning.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A short dilemma by Jenny Barden</title>
		<link>http://blog.verulamwriterscircle.org.uk/?p=879&#038;cpage=1#comment-943</link>
		<dc:creator>Jenny Barden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 May 2010 16:56:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having now read your blogpost, Jon, I must say, I&#039;m impressed. Reading a short story is indeed like a one night stand - and it can end just as abruptly if your date fails to hook! But I do think Ian made a very good point about &#039;Ta da!&#039; endings, and it&#039;s interesting that &#039;Swiss Toni&#039;s&#039; advice on this has attracted so much comment...

I&#039;d say that current trends in short story collections appear (at least to me) to be moving away from the &#039;sock it in your eye&#039; reveal. In fact (as quoted), Ali Smith said: &#039;A short story&#039;s end isn&#039;t an end at all, but always a kind of beginning.&#039; Certainly the Bridport winner last year, Jenny Clarkson&#039;s &#039;Something&#039; (which I love) ended very quietly and pensively, with a sense of continuation, and no great denouement, surprise or resolution.

This is not to suggest that Ian doesn&#039;t have a point, because, I think, in a way, he does. It&#039;s your point 8, Jon, &#039;I Don&#039;t Just Want a Meaningless Fling&#039;. A good short story has to have meaning - it&#039;s got to deliver a consummation - it must be a changing experience in some way. And with an eye to the word limits now demanded in most competitions, it&#039;ll probably have to do that in under 2000 words. So I guess there will be a &#039;Ta da!&#039; - But maybe it won&#039;t be appreciated all at once in a climax of a few seconds!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having now read your blogpost, Jon, I must say, I&#8217;m impressed. Reading a short story is indeed like a one night stand &#8211; and it can end just as abruptly if your date fails to hook! But I do think Ian made a very good point about &#8216;Ta da!&#8217; endings, and it&#8217;s interesting that &#8216;Swiss Toni&#8217;s&#8217; advice on this has attracted so much comment&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;d say that current trends in short story collections appear (at least to me) to be moving away from the &#8216;sock it in your eye&#8217; reveal. In fact (as quoted), Ali Smith said: &#8216;A short story&#8217;s end isn&#8217;t an end at all, but always a kind of beginning.&#8217; Certainly the Bridport winner last year, Jenny Clarkson&#8217;s &#8216;Something&#8217; (which I love) ended very quietly and pensively, with a sense of continuation, and no great denouement, surprise or resolution.</p>
<p>This is not to suggest that Ian doesn&#8217;t have a point, because, I think, in a way, he does. It&#8217;s your point 8, Jon, &#8216;I Don&#8217;t Just Want a Meaningless Fling&#8217;. A good short story has to have meaning &#8211; it&#8217;s got to deliver a consummation &#8211; it must be a changing experience in some way. And with an eye to the word limits now demanded in most competitions, it&#8217;ll probably have to do that in under 2000 words. So I guess there will be a &#8216;Ta da!&#8217; &#8211; But maybe it won&#8217;t be appreciated all at once in a climax of a few seconds!!</p>
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		<title>Comment on A short dilemma by Jon Pinnock</title>
		<link>http://blog.verulamwriterscircle.org.uk/?p=879&#038;cpage=1#comment-942</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Pinnock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 May 2010 16:27:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right. I have finally written my post in answer to this one: http://www.jonathanpinnock.com/2010/05/swiss-tonis-guide-to-writing-short-stories/

And apologies to Ian if I sounded a bit brusque. But I really don&#039;t think that your point about &quot;ta-da&quot; endings applies to a lot of the short story collections that I&#039;ve read recently - by people like Vanessa Gebbie, Elizabeth Baines, David Gaffney and Sara Maitland, to name but a few.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right. I have finally written my post in answer to this one: <a href="http://www.jonathanpinnock.com/2010/05/swiss-tonis-guide-to-writing-short-stories/" rel="nofollow">http://www.jonathanpinnock.com/2010/05/swiss-tonis-guide-to-writing-short-stories/</a></p>
<p>And apologies to Ian if I sounded a bit brusque. But I really don&#8217;t think that your point about &#8220;ta-da&#8221; endings applies to a lot of the short story collections that I&#8217;ve read recently &#8211; by people like Vanessa Gebbie, Elizabeth Baines, David Gaffney and Sara Maitland, to name but a few.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A short dilemma by Jon Pinnock</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Pinnock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 May 2010 23:17:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The last very long comment that I wrote disappeared when I submitted it, so I&#039;ll simply say that this was an excellent post by Jenny and one that deserves a longer response from me, which will appear on my own blog in the next day or so. As far as Ian&#039;s comment is concerned, yes, there are a lot of competitions, but ALL submissions processes are inevitably competitive, whether they are for something called a competition or for a particular magazine. I&#039;d also be interested to know what recent short story collections Ian has read that backs up his view on &quot;ta-da&quot; endings, because it doesn&#039;t reflect my experience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The last very long comment that I wrote disappeared when I submitted it, so I&#8217;ll simply say that this was an excellent post by Jenny and one that deserves a longer response from me, which will appear on my own blog in the next day or so. As far as Ian&#8217;s comment is concerned, yes, there are a lot of competitions, but ALL submissions processes are inevitably competitive, whether they are for something called a competition or for a particular magazine. I&#8217;d also be interested to know what recent short story collections Ian has read that backs up his view on &#8220;ta-da&#8221; endings, because it doesn&#8217;t reflect my experience.</p>
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